Quest

[rejectomorph]

Ever since I first installed Opera I've used it as my default e-mail client as well as my default browser, but recently I had to switch ISPs to (ick) AT&T Yahoo, and their e-mail service requires e-mail clients to be SSL compliant, while Opera uses TLS instead (oh, the curse of being ahead of the curve!) Ideally, there'd be a way I could continue to use Opera as my e-mail client, but while I've heard that TLS can transform itself into SSL3 if necessary, I'm utterly non-geek and would have no idea how to make it do this.

I could use SSL-compliant Mozilla Thunderbird, but, while it's not the abomination Outlook Express is, I've tried it before and found it a bit clunky, and annoying to configure, so I would only use it as a last resort.

Another alternative I've found would be to try an e-mail client called Courier which, while not SSL compliant itself, can be configured to work with an open source program called Stunnel which, as I understand it (meaning very, very dimly), would punk Yahoo's POP and SMTP servers and make them think I was using an SSL compliant e-mail client. I do like the description Courier gives of itself, but I've not yet tried it so I don't know if I'd really find it usable.

Why, you may be asking, would I not simply use Stunnel with Opera directly instead of going through Courier? Well, I would, but I can't find anything on Opera's website (or on Stunnel's website) saying that Opera is compatible with Stunnel... but there's a nice little section of the Opera database that tells how to configure Opera to work with Courier, and a nice (though not so little) section on Courier's website that tells how to configure Courier for use with Stunnel. In other words, if I run as fast as I can I might be able to stay somewhere in the vicinity of the same place.

Anyway, what I'd like to know is:

1) Has anybody ever used Stunnel (or maybe something like it) with Opera and, if so, did disaster ensue?
2) Has anybody ever used Courier, with or without Opera and, if so, is Courier as good as it looks from its self-description?
3) Has anybody got a suggestion for any other alternatives, so I don't end up having to use Thudderbird?

(Cross posted to opera_browser.)

Oh, all I want is to get back to using the Internets, and not have to reconfigure all sorts of crap on my computer. Why must I be a compu'tard?

Comments

Google saith

[leprosy.livejournal.com]

This is how it can be done:
http://list.opera.com/pipermail/opera-users/2001-November/007406.html

Re: Google saith

[rejectomorph]

Oh, are those DOS commands? I haven't used DOS since I quit Sluggo! I don't know if I remember how.

That actually looks as though it might be a more elaborate task than configuring Thunderbird would be, but thanks anyway. I was given a means of using Opera with At&T-Yahoo that lets it work as an incoming mail client, but not for outgoing mail. I think I'll just use it that way for the time being, and go to my webmail page to send stuff. It's safer tahn me putzing about in the computer's innards.

Speaking of which, I've oden something with one or another of the settings in Opera mail that now causes a warning to appear every time it connects to one of my old chiconet addresses (still live.) It tells me something about the pop.chiconet server's name not matching the certificate's name, and the certificate has expired anyway. See what happens when I reconfigure stuff? I've started breaking the Internets!

[scottobear.livejournal.com]

I'm digging opera's browser on the nintendo wii... I'll check out stunnel, Thanks!

Happy birthday-eve, by the way!

[rejectomorph]

Thanks. It snuck up on me again. Maybe I should get LJ to send me a notification for my own birthday, so I won't forget it.

A wee Opera for wii? Excellent!